What would you call yourself?

Last post 07-16-2007 8:41 PM by Lady Abigail. 13 replies.
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  • 11-28-2006 9:59 PM

    What would you call yourself?

    In the political sence, what are you?

    I've been studying Anti-Capitalism, Anarchism, for around a year now. If there were an Anarchistic society somewhere in the world, it would in no way directly interfere with my daily lifesyle so there is no real reason to support Anarchism, other than being cool. Although, I do belive in alot of things involved with Anarchism. Because of reason like, peopole whould be more independent and they shouldn't expect the government to take care of problems. It just slows down societal movements, takes more money away from the general public (instead of affecting just a few people) and other things like so. Another part of Anarchism I support is...well look at it like this. If there were no governments and no religion, what reasons would there be to have mass wars? Without government, there would be no money. And just imagine a world of bartering. But where the poor are supported by the richer folk of a community.

    I'm not trying to change your thinking, more just introduce a new way of looking at something. And don't you ever say I don't understand the tru meaning of Anarchism. Everything I learned about Anarchism I learned from anarchism.net, mises.org and lewrockwell.com.

    Usually when you encounter an Anarchist you also find an Atheist. Now me, I study things like the Big-Bang Theory, string theory and other things like that.

    So what are you? Maybe, you can'y be labelled by something liek communist, liberal, democrat, nazi adn so on because you see things in more of your own way. And, you might as well put if you're religious.

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 11-29-2006 9:35 AM In reply to

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    Interesting premise.  There was a time when I would have said I was a staunch Catholic Conservative Republican.  Nice label.  But today, I find I am as likely to vote Democratic or Independent or even Green Party, dependent upon the issues. 

    And, while you may think that anarchism would eliminate government, and therefore, wars, I find it hard to believe that the elimination of laws would result in a world full of happy, happy, joy, joy and no problems.  Without laws and government, what is there to prevent total chaos and someone deciding to take everything for themself?  There may not be mass wars, however, there also would not be societal norms in place and no resultant restraint on the part of the masses.

    But, again, your interest in the political scene is quite refreshing, whatever your beliefs.  In today's world, far too many people fail to participate in, let alone show interest in anything other than #1.

     

    On My Honor...Always
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  • 11-29-2006 5:18 PM In reply to

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    scoutmom:

    Interesting premise.  There was a time when I would have said I was a staunch Catholic Conservative Republican.  Nice label.  But today, I find I am as likely to vote Democratic or Independent or even Green Party, dependent upon the issues. 

    And, while you may think that anarchism would eliminate government, and therefore, wars, I find it hard to believe that the elimination of laws would result in a world full of happy, happy, joy, joy and no problems.  Without laws and government, what is there to prevent total chaos and someone deciding to take everything for themself?  There may not be mass wars, however, there also would not be societal norms in place and no resultant restraint on the part of the masses.

    But, again, your interest in the political scene is quite refreshing, whatever your beliefs.  In today's world, far too many people fail to participate in, let alone show interest in anything other than #1.

     



    I appreciate your forwardness and respect. Those are the reason why Anarchism has not moved or gained any real power in the past decades. Most Anarchists could tell you that they arn't aiming for a whole mass take down of the whole government and authority scene. I belive that most Anarchists are just aiming for a small area just for them. But no Anarchist expects to see this happen within our lifetime.

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 11-29-2006 9:23 PM In reply to

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    I guess you could call me a democracy loving, capitalistic, all american stereotype. I like my potholes filled, my kids educated, my crime under control, and my food prepared and inspected under stringent guidelines! When I think of anarchism, I think of Darfur and the millions of helpless, homeless refugees that are being brutalized and killed by thugs that are under no restrictions. Sorry, not for me.
    Support Our Troops!
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  • 11-29-2006 9:46 PM In reply to

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    fleur_de_lis:
    I guess you could call me a democracy loving, capitalistic, all american stereotype. I like my potholes filled, my kids educated, my crime under control, and my food prepared and inspected under stringent guidelines! When I think of anarchism, I think of Darfur and the millions of helpless, homeless refugees that are being brutalized and killed by thugs that are under no restrictions. Sorry, not for me.


    I'm not going to argue with you because those are also reason why an Anarchism would never be derived. Until human greed is taken away, no progress can be done. If each person on the planet helped the needy and undereducated more, would we still have drug wars and other mass problems? Most of the time, inner-greed can not be taken away from the average person. This is also what most Anarchists fear, this is why no Anarchistic society will ever be brought up in the next decades.

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 11-30-2006 1:51 PM In reply to

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    I have heard of Anarchy...the "A" with a circle around it. Some teens in my area think it's 'cool'. Have you looked up anarchy in the dictionary? 1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
    2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order : DISORDER (copied from AOL dictionary)

    That is not the answer. The only way to change the system is from within...http://www.lp.org this is the website for the Libertarian party in N. America...yes they are in Canada too. They call themselves "The party of principles". I call it plain common sense.

    I believe in the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Indep, and the 10 commandments (not 10 suggestions or good ideas). These few simple rules give us all we need. As long as we aren't causing harm to another, or violating another's rights, the gov't should leave us alone, but I want to know that a gov't is there to protect my rights when I can't.

    Don't take my word for it...check it out for yourself.

    kckrazykat

    "The hottest layers of hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."---Dante

    "I am but one strand in the web of conscienceness, and when my strand trembles, the universe notices."---Chopra
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  • 12-01-2006 10:15 PM In reply to

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    people running around spray-paning to circle-A on rndom buildings is what is giving Anarchy such a bad name. Those kids do not understand Anarchism at all. By spray painting the circle-A on random commercial buildings, what is that accomplishing? Nothing.

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 12-01-2006 11:01 PM In reply to

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    I love Canadians.  They usually look at things from a much different perspective then Americans.  Although Anarchy is quite a useless idea it does bring up some interesting thoughts about how a government should or shouldn't operate.

    As for the Big Bang theory, its even more futile than Anarchy, but string theory is much more interesting.  Looking forward to more exciting / interesting topics from you Tim.
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  • 12-03-2006 2:02 PM In reply to

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    What do you make of the big bang theory? It seems that all the particles in the universe came together and had massive explosion and so on. But Where did these particles come from? Most people I talk to say that they're just there. I believe that's impossible. At some point, something had to be made. For this to be possible, at one point in time, something made itself. Some people say that maybe the universe was never created, just allways follows a circuit of repeating throughout time, strange but supposibly possible.

    But, I believe the human brain is not meant to figure out huge things like this. Most people connot comprehend that the universe has no end to it. Now people are theorizing about multi-verses (Yes, multiple universes once you leave this one).

    Now I'm young and studying String Theory, and I don't understand Quantum Physics? Is it just one of thoise things that is so simple that I can't see it? Can you try and explain it to me?

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 12-07-2006 8:33 AM In reply to

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    String Theory is complicated and requires an understanding of Quantum Physics and other such things so I can't really explain it to you.  It is one of those topics you just have to keep reading about until it starts to make sense.  I don't agree much with the outcome but it is a fun subject to study nonetheless. 

    In reference to the big bang theory, the problem lies in the current perfect order of things in relation to the laws of thermodynamics.  I'll refer  you to this wikipedia article which states the following:

    Thus, if entropy is associated with disorder and if the entropy of the universe is headed towards maximal entropy, then many are often puzzled as to the nature of the "ordering" process and operation of evolution in relation to Clausius' most-famous version of the second law, which states that the universe is headed towards maximal “disorder”. In the recent 2003 book SYNC – the Emerging Science of Spontaneous Order by Steven Strogatz, for example, we find “Scientists have often been baffled by the existence of spontaneous order in the universe. The laws of thermodynamics seem to dictate the opposite, that nature should inexorably degenerate toward a state of greater disorder, greater entropy. Yet all around us we see magnificent structures—galaxies, cells, ecosystems, human beings—that have all somehow managed to assemble themselves.”

    This is actually just one of the reasons why the big bang theory doesn't hold up, among others like the one you stated "Where did the matter come from in the first place?"  Recently, folks have tried (and by this I mean lied) to create theories and outcomes that support the big bang theory ignoring the obvious inconsistancies and problems with the theory.

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  • 12-26-2006 3:33 PM In reply to

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    Yea...well I didn't understand a word of that.

    Even Van Gogh Looked At Me and Said 'You're One Piece of Work'
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  • 06-10-2007 4:13 PM In reply to

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    http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

     Go and take this little quiz. It will only take a few min of your time, and you will be surprised at what you will learn about exactly where you stand, politically. I have been tired of politics as usual. It was 1992 when I first heard of the Libertarian party. It's very simple, actually. Dems, Reps, we have had elephants and jackasses running rough-shod over our Constitution for too long now. I can see where one would start thinking that Anarchy may be the way to go... but it's not. But check this out... the site is lp.org for more information, if it turns out that you are so inclined.

    "The hottest layers of hell are reserved for those who, in times of moral crisis, maintain their neutrality."---Dante

    "I am but one strand in the web of conscienceness, and when my strand trembles, the universe notices."---Chopra
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  • 06-13-2007 1:22 AM In reply to

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    CONSERVATIVES tend to favor economic freedom, but frequently

    support laws to restrict personal behavior that violates "traditional
    values." They oppose excessive government control of business,

    while endorsing government action to defend morality and the

    traditional family structure. Conservatives usually support a strong

    military, oppose bureaucracy and high taxes, favor a free-market

    economy, and endorse strong law enforcement.

    At least that is what the quiz said, and I agree.

    Fidei defensor

    Istvan
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  • 07-16-2007 8:41 PM In reply to

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     Do I dare peak outside of Joe's section?

    I'm a Christian. Politically I consider myself a Constitutionalist, but I'm likely to vote Republican in '08 depending on whether Ron Paul wins the primaries or not.
     

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