Pretty bad

Last post 01-30-2008 3:58 PM by kmekm. 8 replies.
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  • 01-21-2008 1:23 PM

    Pretty bad

    Hey y'all! I found this article of Mike Huckebee! It is pretty bad!

    http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/840.html

     

    New World Order? ....Sangerites anyone?.... :)

     

    Way down upon the Swanee River,
    Far, far away...

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  • 01-22-2008 8:04 AM In reply to

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     I only had a chance to look around a little, but that didn't look to me like an overly trustworthy website.  Have you done any research on it? (Or do you know who the founder is?)

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  • 01-22-2008 10:03 PM In reply to

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    I'd like to comment on this subject but right now I have to run...

    ...maybe (maybe) I'll get back to this later. :-)

    (Things have been pretty busy here with school and all, so sorry - vanfullof10 haven't been on Steeple much!) = )

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    Joey-the-Kangaroo!! =D

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  • 01-23-2008 12:37 PM In reply to

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    The main problems I have with this article are that (1) it doesn’t give a link for the all trustworthy CNN clip, (2), the headline makes a claim that the article doesn’t really support, and (3) it may have taken what Huckabee said way out of proportion…

    The first point is pretty self explanatory, so let’s move on to point two. “Huckabee Exposed as New World Order Puppet” is the title of this article, but the article isn’t really about Huckabee, it’s about Haass. In fact I only noticed Huckabee’s name mentioned twice in the article itself. The word “exposed” is misleading because it makes it seem like The National Expositor or someone else caught Huckabee in a trap, when in fact he (Huckabee) is the one who mentioned Haass while talking to a CNN reporter. The word “puppet” makes Huckabee seem like the men in “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” or someone who is incapable of thinking for himself. The article did not even try to argue this, it only quoted Huckabee saying that he talked to people. All of us talk to people, ask people for advice, even when we don’t agree with everything they say or do. We do that here on Steeple all the time. Which leads to?

    Point 3: According to the quote in the article, Huckabee said “. . . I talk to Richard Haass. . .”. The article immediately tries to make the reader believe that that means that Huckabee agrees with everything that Haass says and stands for. I admit that the little I know about Haass’s foreign policy is not something I am enthusiastic about, but Huckabee might be trying to gain something from Haass’s knowledge and experience. I don’t know what the case is, but the fact that the article immediately grabs the idea that best suit’s the National Expositor’s argument (which seems to be pro Ron Paul and anti every one else) without producing any other evidence to support it seems a bit fishy to me.


    I’m not trying to discredit the National Expositor, or defend Huckabee, I’m just trying to point out what I saw wrong with the article. If any of you can bring additional proof to the article’s argument, then I would be happy to consider what you have. However, I have already spent more time on this than I should have, so I don’t plan on being able to spend time on it again until Saturday at best.

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  • 01-27-2008 5:30 PM In reply to

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    Very good points.:)

    Why does it matter who the founder of the site is?

    Keep in mind, taht that was written by Haass. And, taht it was not written about Huckebee, therefore it need not center on him. The pointmis, taht Huckebee actually consults this guy on foreign policies.

    I agree that the title is a little dramatic, and blew things a bit out of proportion. :)

    But, one who desires to run a country, should have Godly councelors (If he is a believer) that believe the way he does.

    It just seems that he relys on the wrong source for his foreign policy. We can not afford to give up ANY more of our soverignety to world forces!!  Below is a quote from Haass.

     

    " … Sleepovereignty must be redefined if states are to cope with globalization. At its core, globalization entails the increasing volume, velocity, and importance of flows – within and across borders – of people, ideas, greenhouse gases, goods, dollars, drugs, viruses, e-mails, weapons and a good deal else, challenging one of sovereignty's fundamental principles: the ability to control what crosses borders in either direction. Sovereign states increasingly measure their vulnerability not to one another, but to forces beyond their control."

    Haas then argues that sovereignty "needs to become weaker."

     

    With all the new things happening in my life right now, I do not really have time to research all the stuff that I want to. :/

    Anyway-Interesting points Elizabeth. :)

     

    ~Sarah~

    Way down upon the Swanee River,
    Far, far away...

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  • 01-28-2008 7:48 AM In reply to

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     Thanks, but actually that was from my brother (the second K) who is much more into politics than I am.  (Four people use this screenname.)

    I'm guessing he wanted to know who the founder is because if it was someone (or some organization) that he trusted, he would tend to believe them, or at least give them the benefit of the doubt, and just assume that the errors he pointed out were just mistakes, instead of an intentional attempt to mislead people.

    Off to go skiing, have a great day!

    ~E

     

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  • 01-28-2008 11:27 AM In reply to

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    Oh! :) Ok.:)

    Have fun skiing! :)

     

    ~Sarah

    Way down upon the Swanee River,
    Far, far away...

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  • 01-30-2008 1:09 PM In reply to

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    I don't have time to read the article right now, but in case anyone is interested here is what someone posted on my blog when we were discussing Huckabee and Haas a while back:

    "

    Anonymous said...

    Chuck said:
    " I was unable to discern if Mr. Huckabee tends toward globalism or not.....The foreign policy speech referred to was delivered on September 28, 2007 at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington D.C.. A seeming condensed version was (published in the January/February 2008 magazine Foreign Affairs published by the Council on Foreign Relations. I suppose they publish a lot of things by a lot of people. Mike Huckabee has personally stated that Richard Haass is one of his principle foreign policy advisers.(This should concern Mike Huckabee suporters.) There are rumours that Mr. Huckabee has hired Richard Haass as his advisor. I have NOT been able to verify this and I do not believe it to be true."

    First of all the group Huckabee was speaking to Center for Strategic and International Studies....here is a quote from their website on what their agenda is:

    The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) seeks to advance global security and prosperity in an era of economic and political transformation by providing strategic insights and practical policy solutions to decisionmakers. CSIS serves as a strategic planning partner for the government by conducting research and analysis and developing policy initiatives that look into the future and anticipate change.

    Sound like globalism?

    Next...here is a video of Huckabee stating that Richard Haass is his adviser in case some people did not know that to be true....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_BucPcJrHI

    Also in this next video clip you can hear Huckabee refer to Haass as a friend and at the end that he is a good guy and loyal to the US. If you have read anything of Richard Haass (President of the Council of Foreign Relations) I don't see how Huckabee can consider him a friend, a good guy or loyal to the US.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGxMdNCjfRU"

    LAAIW#%%3@

    www.ladyabigail90.blogspot.com
    www.youtube.com/LadyAbigail90
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  • 01-30-2008 3:58 PM In reply to

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    kmekm:

    I'm guessing he wanted to know who the founder is because if it was someone (or some organization) that he trusted, he would tend to believe them, or at least give them the benefit of the doubt, and just assume that the errors he pointed out were just mistakes, instead of an intentional attempt to mislead people. ~E

     

    Yes that's what I meant.  Thanks for the videos Lady A.  I'll look them over when I have time.

    -K

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