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re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

Bahnsen8 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:42:36 GMT

Are you saying that the Bible is not to be the standard for Christian lawmakers or any lawmakers, or are you saying that only certain portions of the Bible are to be the standard for Christian lawmakers, or are you saying that no standard is necessary for civil legislation, or something I haven't thought of (quite possible!)?

re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

WesleySonofCornelius — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:36:26 GMT

1.) Both Paul and Moses wrote to the People or Assembly or Ekklesia of God.

2.) However, Paul wrote to those under the New Covenant while Moses wrote to those under the Old Covenant.

In light of these two (distinct) points, I believe we can then start thinking more clearly on Deut 13 and this Christian legislator. If we acknowlegde that Moses wrote to the covenant people of God, we understand he was not writing to the Egyptians, Canaanites, or non-covenant individuals. That is why, as I have mentioned many times before, Daniel did not legislate to the Babylonians and Persians from the Covenant given by Moses. No doubt he borrowed and often modeled from the civil aspects of this covenant. Yet he understood Deut 13 and the like were for the Covenant People of God, not for those outside the Covenant.

We need not confuse the two distinct points I made. For now, let us ignore the second (and somewhat challenging point). Christian legislators in a secular government, at best, borrow from the Mosaic Covenant; they do not (and should not in my opinion) duplicate the Covenant. Now a pastor and elders are different. They lead the Covenant (be it New) People of God.

A flat head screwdriver can turn a Philips head screw, yet with frustration and inefficiency. We must keep that in mind in trying to transfer the Old Covenant regulations to nations of noncovenant members.

re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

Bahnsen8 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:58:32 GMT

Wesley, of course we would agree that Paul and Moses were both inspired by the same Holy Spirit, yes? The verse you quote is directed at the church, yes? Or do you say it is also directed at the civil government? Help me understand how you put this all together. How would you advise a Christian legislator to make law? Do you believe it is acceptable for Christian's to be legislator's in the civil government?-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Joe, thanks for thinking of me. My suggestion was genuine, because I know you think you have a Scriptural reason for your understanding of Deuteronomy 13......I hope you guys have been filled with His peace and Presence, rejoicing in His great love toward us. It's good to have a quick minute to say hi.

re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

WesleySonofCornelius — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:32:01 GMT

ew ... ew ... oh! (raising hand high) Can I answer the interpretation of Deut 13 and why Calvin was mistaken and many of his followers today are confused?

One who was inspired wrote:

"For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges (or will judge) those outside. 'Purge the evil person from among you.'" (Paul, quoting Deut 13 in 1 Corinthians 5)

re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

Joe Napalm — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:28:40 GMT

Ah, it's good to have you back. I saved this one for you.

re: A Discussion on History of Religous Liberty in America

Bahnsen8 — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:22:31 GMT

Your next post should provide us with the "correct" interpretation of Deuteronomy 13, lest you suggest random castigation and/or banishment of uncomfortable and apparently confusing Scripture.

re: Understanding the Economic Depression

Bahnsen8 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:57:12 GMT

Still Bait. Not Benign yet, but expect to be sometime early in May.

re: Understanding the Economic Depression

WesleySonofCornelius — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:54:14 GMT

Look who showed up! So, are you B9 yet?

re: Understanding the Economic Depression

Bahnsen8 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:15:40 GMT

Fabulous

re: Perspective

TheWilli — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:29:55 GMT

Wow. My younger brother guessed that a trillion seconds equaled 15 years.

Now you need create a little javascript or PHP web application that does this calculation for you, and gain web fame by publishing it all over. Digg, youtube, stumbleupon, the works.

"If we paid a dollar a second, how long would it take us to fix the National debt? What about the repaying the bailout?"

re: Understanding the Economic Depression

Fluffy Cow — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:02:46 GMT

*Victory fist pump* Calvin & Hobbes!!! YESSSSS!

re: Are You More Logical Than Joe?

Joe Napalm — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:22:49 GMT

Two? Aquafina and Disani?

re: Are You More Logical Than Joe?

WesleySonofCornelius — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:13:46 GMT

Ignoring this logical test, water is defined as H2O (two hydrogen to one oyxgen). Hydrogen has two stable isotopes: Protium (1 proton, 0 neutrons) and its natural abundance is 99.985% and Deuterium (1 proton, 1 neutron) and its natural abundance is 0.015%. Oxygen, on the other hand, has three stable isotopes: O-16 (8p, 8n), O-17 (8p, 9n), and O-18 (8p, 10n) with abundances of 99.762%, 0.038%, and 0.200%, respectively.

So here is a difficult question, how many combinations of H2O can be found in nature? For the real brave, what are the natural abundances of these molecules?

re: Are You More Logical Than Joe?

Joe Napalm — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:01:41 GMT

Throw out everything you know. It's not important in logic problems (ducks don't bark). The first statement says that water is H2O. Therefore, as far as I can tell, the second statement isn't necessary.

re: Are You More Logical Than Joe?

:o)} — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:09:44 GMT

Well, technically, heavy water does not contain two hydrogen atoms . . . it contains two deuterium atoms . . . an isotope of hydrogen that has a neutron in the nucleus. But it's still water . . . right?

:o)}

BTW, I also got 14 out or 15, but I still don't think men and women will ever understand each other!